A New Look at Asian Immigrants

A New Look at Asian Immigrants

More news stories on Asian Immigrants

Kimberly Sanfeliz, Boston Globe, November 23, 2008

A new survey by the University of Massachusetts at Boston’s Institute for Asian American Studies attempts to fill what the authors say is a gaping hole in the research on immigrants.

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The institute’s study, “Interest and Action: Findings from a Survey of Asian American Attitudes on Immigrants, Immigration, and Activism,” found that 80 percent of the 412 Asian-Americans surveyed pay either a great deal of attention or some attention to immigration issues.

It also found that 58 percent said they were very sympathetic or somewhat sympathetic to the Latino community’s stance on immigration issues, and 52 percent support a legalization process for undocumented immigrants.

The survey also asked respondents about their likelihood of participating in activities supporting greater rights for immigrants. While 33 percent said they were very likely to sign a petition, only about 9 percent said they were very likely to work with others in an organization, or to participate in a march or demonstration.

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(Posted on November 26, 2008)

In a Twist, USA’s Asians Are Heading to the

Mountain West

More news stories on Asian Immigrants

Haya El Nasser, USA Today, July 7, 2008

Dozens of workers line up for a buffet catered by Satay Malaysian Grille, a popular Chinatown eatery here. They carry plates piled high with Asian delicacies to nine rows of long tables facing a dais.

By the time the employees savor mango-sticky-rice treats, their luncheon speakers are introduced: a local TV reporter, a former school administrator, a bank founder, a magazine publisher, a chamber of commerce executive, a local politician.

Only one is Anglo. The rest: Chinese, Japanese, Thai—all Asian Americans.

This event isn’t in Las Vegas’ Chinatown district but in a meeting room at one of the pillars of the local business establishment: Nevada Power. The lunch, held so the utility’s employees could hear voices from the Asian-American community, is a reflection of the explosive growth and rising clout of Asian Americans in Nevada and other inland Western states. They’ve become a powerful voting bloc that’s being wooed by presidential candidates—and an economic force that businesses are catering to.

This decade, the Asian population has grown at a faster rate than that of the Hispanic population in 14 states—including Nevada, Arizona and Texas—as well as Washington, D.C.

In a surprising twist to historical settlement patterns, growing numbers of Asian Americans are beginning to bail from the places that have long been their main gateways to the West: California and Washington. Wearied by the same crushing home prices, poor schools, jammed freeways and persistent crime that have sent millions of other Californians packing, Asian Americans are moving to spots in the West they hope will produce better lifestyles—namely Las Vegas and Phoenix.

The Asian migration is fueling ethnic diversity in places that have been overwhelmingly white. Since 1990, Nevada has had the most rapid growth of any state in the number of Asians and Pacific Islanders.

The number jumped 174% in the 1990s and 67% so far this decade to about 211,000, according to 2007 Census Bureau estimates. Asians now make up about 8.2% of Nevada’s 2.6 million people—a higher percentage than the national share of 5.4%. Most live here in Clark County, where Asians are the fastest-growing minority.

Arizona also is registering significant growth among Asians, a trend fueled largely by an exodus from California and Washington. They’re leaving for lower cost of living, warm climates and better job markets, a reflection of the migration patterns that have made Nevada and Arizona the nation’s fastest-growing states throughout much of the past two decades.

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That’s why First Asian Bank’s two branches cater to all Asian groups. The number “8,” a symbol of prosperity, is the first number of the bank’s branch numbers and all its customers’ account numbers (the Beijing Olympics start on 8/8/08 for the same reason). Two Texas companies have since opened banks in Las Vegas to target the Asian market.

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Real estate agents have organized “fly-and-buys” for Californians, offering them three days and two nights in Vegas to play and check out properties.

o The first national glossy magazine to target all Asian ethnicities is scheduled to be launched from Vegas in September. The monthly AsianAm will sell for $4.50, aim for an initial circulation of 700,000 and try to capture the attention of Asians ages 18 to 34, says Bessy Lee-Oh, CEO and publisher.

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Most hotels and casinos are careful not to offend Asian sensibilities. Fifteen years ago, when the MGM Grand HotelsCasino opened, guests had to enter through what appeared to be the mouth of a lion, the company’s corporate logo. Many Asian patrons were not amused. They considered walking into the mouth of a beast bad luck and avoided the casino. MGM spent millions redesigning the entrance.

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Filipinos are the largest Asian group here, at about 45%. Chinese are the next at 15%, Japanese and Koreans make up 9% each, Asian Indians and Vietnamese represent about 5% each, and other Asians make up 12%.

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California generates more Asian migrants than other states, but they’re coming from elsewhere, too.

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Las Vegas is luring Asians young and old, professional and service workers, native-born Americans and immigrants.

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Comments

These people will demand “fair play” from us, and consistently favor their racial brethren when we’re not looking. That’s how they get rich. That’s why ethnic Chinese own the Phillipines, and dominate much of the rest of east Asia. Guaranteed, they will build their own racial enclaves, their own separate suburbs, where they can conspire against us in peace.

Posted by Schoolteacher at 8:08 PM on July 7


anglo? you mean white? asian americans? if I moved to asia would they call me american asian? of course not

Posted by at 7:37 AM on July 8


Asian is too broad a category. It includes people from very different cultures. Some of those cultures live in harmony with us, while others don’t know how to.

Posted by at 9:55 AM on July 8


‘overwhelmingly white’

There’s that phrase again. Keep and eye out for it. You never see any other racial population paired with that term. I guess peaceful prosperous communities of whites is ‘overwhelming’ to journalists of color for whom such communities just don’t compute.

Posted by Civilized Neighbor at 10:08 AM on July 8


I like how the “reporter” of this piece says that only one of the employees of an Asian restaurant was “Anglo.” First, we’re not Anglo, we’re White, and secondly he reports it as if it is a surprise. Asians, like all other identity groups – with the exception of Whites) – always discriminate in favour of there own.

Asians are out-pacing Hispanics here in New England as well. We live in the Boston area and went up to Lake Champlain for the weekend. More than 95% of the people we saw were White. But the over-whelming majority of non-Whites were Asians. Particularly (judging from the names of their restaurants) Thai and/or Vietnamese.

By-the-by, our trip was part vacation and part scouting trip. We were trying to see if the area would be a good place to start a White Nationalist community. It absolutely would. Vermont has a population of roughly 600,000 residents. If 50,000 WNs moved into the state (particularly if they localized in one area) we could “transform” (to use my favourite Newspeak word) it. We could elect a WN governor, 2 WN senators, and a WN representative. What do y’all think?

Posted by Russ at 10:19 AM on July 8


Well put. Just look at their shining example in California.
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These people will demand “fair play” from us, and consistently favor their racial brethren when we’re not looking. That’s how they get rich. That’s why ethnic Chinese own the Phillipines, and dominate much of the rest of east Asia. Guaranteed, they will build their own racial enclaves, their own separate suburbs, where they can conspire against us in peace.

Posted by Schoolteacher at 8:08 PM on July 7

Posted by at 11:18 AM on July 8


Sounds like the asians are leaving areas that are full of other “less successful” minorities. Can’t say I blame them…

Posted by at 12:12 PM on July 8


Asians are racial colonizers. Sorry, but I don’t want to live in China.

Posted by Whitey at 3:32 PM on July 8


Sooner or later Asians will dominate the United States Of America….USA will be known not as United States Of America but United States Of Asia…. Whites don’t have to hate others but they certainly deserve a homeland of their own, much like other people. You would want to have a family and your love ones surrounded by your own people, dont you.

Posted by at 5:59 PM on July 8


It’s bad enough they did their own part to help destroy California, now they’re fanning out into other states.

Posted by at 6:59 PM on July 8


Having lived in Vermont in the recent past I can tell Russ that politically the place is a hotbed of marxists masquerading as Democrats. Whether a White Nationalist community would even be allowed to exist there is a real question. Essentially, virulent leftists from NYC and Boston have been colonizing Vermont since the ’60s and stop at nothing to make life very very difficult for any individual or communal group that dares oppose their agenda.

Posted by ricpic at 6:12 PM on July 9


“Having lived in Vermont in the recent past I can tell Russ that politically the place is a hotbed of marxists masquerading as Democrats. Whether a White Nationalist community would even be allowed to exist there is a real question. Essentially, virulent leftists from NYC and Boston have been colonizing Vermont since the ’60s and stop at nothing to make life very very difficult for any individual or communal group that dares oppose their agenda.”

Hello ricpic,

I agree wholeheartedly with the above. Vermont, along with California, New York, and Massachusetts are generally considered the most “liberal” states in the union.

While there is no doubt that the political institutions of VT. are dominated by Marxists, I think it is equally true that they constitute a tiny fraction of the population. They dominate the politics because they work hard at it and because most people are followers and just follow along.

Having been born and raised in New England, I feel like I have a fairly intuitive understanding of the people here. The overwhelming majority of the people in northern New England aren’t liberal but rather libertarian. The Marxists understand this and manipulate this fact.

I believe a small but dedicated group of WNs could easily reverse the gains the Marxists have made in the state. And in a very short period hold the kind of influence that the Marxists currently enjoy.

Posted by Russ at 3:02 PM on July 10


Comments

Sounds like yet another meaningless survey. Probably using carefully selected participants to question.

Posted by Fed Up at 6:59 PM on November 26


Asian american men truly do not like how white males “take” their women. They overwhelmingly voted for Obama and I’m not surprised they support illegal immigrants’ rights.

Posted by at 7:08 PM on November 26


It’s everyone who is a demographic minority against the demographic majority. No one wants to feel unrepresented and marginalized, which is what multiculturalism does to everyone.

Posted by Brett Stevens at 7:36 PM on November 26


It doesn’t surprise me that 52 percent of Asians support legalization. 1)Many Asians are here illegally. 2) Many have grandparents and parents that are cheating the government 3) Many are anti-white. 4)They have no connection to the history of this nation, as millions of whties do. Exactly where is the surprise on their attitude concerning U.S. laws and the importance of those laws? Again, from personal experience, I exclude most of the Japanese from these comments.

Posted by Bobby at 9:14 PM on November 26


Asian american men truly do not like how white males “take” their women. They overwhelmingly voted for Obama and I’m not surprised they support illegal immigrants’ rights.

Posted by at 7:08 PM on November 26

America now has a black president. Was it worth it?

Posted by at 10:08 PM on November 26


7:08pm:

I agree with you. I have heard a number of Asian men bitterly complain in private about how White males date, have sex with, steal and marry their women. The is a lot of hostility and jealousy toward White men from Asian men.

Posted by Richard at 11:09 PM on November 26


Asian american men truly do not like how white males “take” their women. They overwhelmingly voted for Obama and I’m not surprised they support illegal immigrants’ rights.

Posted by at 7:08 PM on November 26

Let me get this straight…you think Asian males voted for Obama because McCain is white plus the association that whites are trying to “take their women”. I seriously doubt that. Asians have typically voted Democrat and would have done so regardless. If you are in fact one of those white guys who chases Asian women, then your taunt/comment is a sign of insecurity.

Posted by Kevka at 11:11 PM on November 26


Regardless of the higher socio-economic status of Asians they still appear to have resentment against the European-Americans who allowed them to come here in the first place.

This means that no matter what we do for any other racial / or ethnic group they will desire either a parasitical or domineering relationship with us, and will side with any other group against us. Remember the political theorists who predicted the Hispanics would vote for McCain because of their rivalry with the blacks??? That theory, along with Karl Rove’s fantasies about the hispanics being natural Republicans have both been tossed into the ash heap of history.

Posted by Skipper at 11:44 PM on November 26


It’s not enough to be smart. One needs to be loyal in order to be considered a desired type of an immigrant.

Also, my personal experience with small lanscaping/gardening businesses was that the owner was almost always Asian and the workers were illegal Mexicans. So, if they make good money of illegals, they are not likely to oppose the illegal “immigration”.

Posted by A Reader at 12:47 AM on November 27


Of course the Asians support amnesty for illegal aliens – duh!

Deepa Iyer, executive director of South Asian American Leaders of Tomorrow in Takoma Park, Md. on Indians in US; “as many as 400,000 are undocumented”

http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/2006/10/28/23-million-people-of-indian-ancestry-us-census-data/

Thus, if there are approximately 2.3 million Indians in the US and 400,000 of them are “undocumented” – about 1/6 of Indians in the US are illegal aliens.

Even more ominous. Asian Indians, not Mexicans, are now the fastest growing segment of illegal aliens in the US.

http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2008/02/the-new-illegal.html

http://www.searchindia.com/search/american-ramblings/desi-bhaiya-illegals.html

Also, the San Francisco Chronicle reports 1.5 million illegal Chinese and Filipinos.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/18/MNG7JITSJA1.DTL&hw=Filipinos%2BFor%2BAffirmative%

Add it all up and it’s easy to see why they want amnesty – so that chain migration can kick in and they can dispossess “evil whitey”.

Asians don’t like whites in general. True, east Asian women are attracted to white men. But, in general, these people harbor deep rooted historical resentments against us – especially the Chinese who drone on endlessly about their “humiliation” at the hands of the west.

Posted by Saddle Up Texas at 5:39 AM on November 27


“1)Many Asians are here illegally.”

not me assh*le

“2) Many have grandparents and parents that are cheating the government”

My grandparents are in Korea, old friend, and my parents pay taxes just as much as anyone else (legally) in Canada does, and my parents do not commit crimes.

“3) Many are anti-white.”

hahahaha

“4)They have no connection to the history of this nation, as millions of whties do.”

This one, I agree with you on it.

Posted by Korean guy at 6:33 AM on November 27


Asians are the second most numerous group in the country illegally after latinos. This is just one more example of identity politics at work in a once great nation.

Posted by at 9:00 AM on November 27


I agree with you. I have heard a number of Asian men bitterly complain in private about how White males date, have sex with, steal and marry their women. The is a lot of hostility and jealousy toward White men from Asian men.

Posted by Richard at 11:09 PM on November 26

How is that any different from white men complaining about blacks with white women? On AR and other similar forums I see it all the time. East Asians are a very small minority in America, but something is even more wrong when people in the majority culture have the same problem.

Posted by at 12:02 PM on November 27


Just one more addition to my above post if I may. 5)Many Asians are sympathetic to illegal aliens because they use and abuse(underpay) them in their “restaurants”. Some people will interpret these assertions as arising from “hate”, etc. Not at all. I like to think of myself as a kind of observer,a kind of philosopher on life issues. The truth is, I hold no particular grudges towards the vast majority of mankind, but instead tend to judge my own and myself, more severly, because we should know better, considering all the wonderful things that have been handed down to us, and that we abuse and take for granted.

Posted by Bobby at 2:14 PM on November 27


I have never ever complained that Asian women and some white men date. I do notice it indeed, but I have never ever complained that some white men date Asian women. That is mostly because, the Asian women who date white men are, more often than not, less than attractive ones among the Asian women.

And secondly, AmRen is about preserving the rights and respecting the heritage of white people in North America and around the world. Then why do quite a few of you white men sound so proud that you are dating Asian women? whereas you get so upset if white women ever date or marry outside the race? Aren’t you contradicting yourself? I do not mean to argue with you. I will always read and post on AmRen. I do not mind a few Asian women date outside their races, (there are enough Asian women for all Asian men to choose from) but I just wonder why you contradict yourself.

Posted by Korean guy at 2:41 PM on November 27


Asians don’t like whites in general. True, east Asian women are attracted to white men. But, in general, these people harbor deep rooted historical resentments against us – especially the Chinese who drone on endlessly about their “humiliation” at the hands of the west.

I have had long association with Asian people, and I have never been subject, to or sensed, any resentment from them. This association includes Chinese, Philippinos, Vietnamese, Thais, Cambodians and Laotians (to include the Yard and Hmuong from the mountains) Asian women do seem to like American men in particular though, but still, I have never heard any resentful remark from men. Of course, that could be due to my sparkling personality.

Posted by Skip at 3:24 PM on November 27


I’ve always thought it’s a fallacy that conservatives refer to Asians as a “model minority”. I went to a high school that was about 10-20% Asian (mostly Chinese and Korean), and the students I knew there were hardly worth emulating. They were very often of lower-income families and were big into the whole rap music/”thug life” scene. Some were even in gangs and carried weapons to class, a far cry from the stereotype of the “nerd” Asian who plays RPG computer games like “World of Warcraft” and watches anime.

The fact that they resent whitey and support Democrats is not surprising.

Posted by James at 4:24 PM on November 27


most people are ethnocentric to some degree and asians are certainly no exception. but im reluctant to dismiss these results as evidence of prejudice. since asians tend to be relatively recent immigrants themselves, its not surprising they would feel some sympathy for hispanic immigration. however, asians tend to have a little more class and i can see them becoming quickly annoyed with those who don’t.

Posted by fred at 6:52 PM on November 27


Korean Guy:

You are correct. As Courtney and some other posters have made clear, a number of White men on this board (not all) are outright hypocrites when it ocmes to interracial dating.they feel it is okay for them, but go hysterical when White females or non-white men do so.

Posted by Diana at 8:19 PM on November 27


I’ve always been under the impression that some white men have a preference for E. Asian women. I’ve seen Asian women overrepresented in porn but not the general media which I take to mean they have a strong appeal over a segment of whites but the preference is not held by the more general population.

Posted by Mike at 11:12 PM on November 27


Canada was founded on three pillars: English, French, and aboriginals.

Later, the tension between French and English encouraged Canadian politicians to put forward a solution: bring in immigrants of varied nationalities, creeds, and races, in order to restructure the country into a fractured ‘mosaic’. The idea was that with many ‘special interest groups’ no one group could dominate the others. They called it ‘multiculturalism’.

This has another name: divide and conquer. The founding whites are now fighting to preserve their place, against immigrants who care nothing for the future of whites on this continent.

Posted by at 11:14 PM on November 27


What type of white nationalist site is this where whites gloat about their purported ability to get cheap Asian mail order brides?
I thought miscegenation was a big no no – or does that only apply to white women with non-white men?

Posted by John Liu at 1:14 AM on November 28


Good point, Korean guy. I think that first-generation Asian women may feel attracted to white men as a kind of status symbol (I have previously been in a brief relationship with a Taiwanese girl myself), but second or third-generation Asian women tend to stick with their own.

‘…the Asian women who date white men are, more often than not, less than attractive ones among the Asian women.’ This is exactly how I feel regarding white women / black men, which is the main reason why I’m none too fussed by it. Also, the white women who date black men usually hail from the lower echelons of society.

Of course, I don’t mind white women dating Asian men as I have great respect for East Asian peoples. I’m glad you post on AmRen, and please don’t be put off by some of the comments on this page! Asians have as much to fear in the long run from the demographic growth of the Third World as whites.

Posted by James Y at 6:08 AM on November 28


“Asians have typically voted Democrat and would have done so regardless.” Kevka

I agree with that. Asian covers both East Asians and South Asians. I would say both groups support the Democratic Party more than whites. However, they don’t vote Democratic in numbers as great as blacks or Hispanics.

I doubt that East Asians vote Democratic because white men are stealing their women. However, this “stealing” is limited to East Asian women as most white men don’t’ find Hindi women attractive.

I must disagree with Korean guy about white men dating mostly unattractive East Asian women. I’ve seen some very attractive East Asian women with white men. Nevertheless, Asian women are selected sometimes not because they’re more attractive, but because the’re more traditional. Of course, I personally prefer that whites stay within their own race, but I have no strong feelings against mixed East Asian and white couples.

Posted by Sardonicus at 12:03 PM on November 28


James Y:

You are in denial. The fact is that Asian women who date White jus are just as attractve as those who do not.

I have also seen some drop dead gorgeous White women with Black and Latino men as well.

Posted by Andrew at 5:00 PM on November 28


Of course, I personally prefer that whites stay within their own race, but I have no strong feelings against mixed East Asian and white couples.

Nor does it seem one particularly well known white nationalist who when interviewing a very high ranking member of France’s National Front who is married to a Japanese woman, not only voiced no objection to this, but used this as evidence that whites do not hate non-whites!

The hypocrisy of white nationalists knows no bounds. Any white woman with a black man would be persona-non-grata, but white men with asian women? That’s just fine. Obviously lust trumps genetic perservation for many so-called white patriots.

Posted by John Liu at 8:45 PM on November 28


On AmRen, of course anyone is allowed to disagree with me in civil manners. Just because someone disagrees with me that does not mean I am disrespected or I should stop posting on AmRen. Disrespecting and disagreeing are completely different from each other. Of course we are all entitled to have different opinions as long as we have valid supports, and there are a few attractive East Asian women with white men as well. I said “more often than not” not “always”. And even though the majority of the white women in relationships with black men are extremely overweight, there can be skinny white women with black men. But unfortunately we only remember the minority of the cases. Likely that’s why some white men say “white women are the causes of the miscegenation and they are destroying white races!!” when that is not even close to the reality. Majority of white women are together with white women. And the white men should compare how many of white men themselves get involved in miscegenation with how many of white women do.

I remember reading, “our society will always contain a little bit of everything” and it feels like that’s the reality. Even if interracial dating is still very rare in Toronto, and very likely always will be, there will also always be interracial couples of all races, including white male-black female couples, Asian female-black male couples, and so on. There actually was a rather attractive Chinese girl dating a black boy when I was in highschool, and the picture of them holding each other appeared on the yearbook. And I am a Christian and Christianity strongly opposes homosexuality, there will, unfortunately, always be a few people who are sexually attracted to people of the same gender. Speaking of which, a friend just gave me the address ot this page that displays pictures of an interesting newlywed couple (don’t worry, they are heterosexual) http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f7/i-got-married-last-weekend-pics-877461/

At the moment I have different priorities than dating. I must take care of some unfinished business (one of Homer Simpson’s lines) And even when I do start dating, race would not be that much of a factor. I am not going to go for a particular race. I will have very little, if any, restrictions. Of course white women are very beautiful and they have wonderful personalities, but that does not mean by any means “my date must be a white woman!! I will go for an white woman only!!”

Posted by Korean guy at 9:38 PM on November 28


I find it odd that a group of people who left their heritage and homeland (Asians) behind encourages the infiltration of the land they chose to desecrate. Here in the US we have laws concerning immigration, and anybody who breaks the law should be penalized. The US should put tariffs on all Mexican products/services to help fund the deportation and illegal activities these illegal immigrants perform. If a company gets caught hiring illegal immigrants they should bare all expenses associated with the deportation of these people back to their home land and all related costs, fines and suits outstanding. The immigrants should be stripped of any material goods other then the cloths on their backs. I like to think of this as a form of US tough love…..

Posted by Fugly at 3:57 AM on November 29


Is this because Asians feel so benevolent towards other minorities, or is it that their hatred for whites is so profound as to overshadow any other consideration?

Posted by Superman at 12:58 PM on November 29


Years ago, when the old Ice Bandit had a full head of hair and a testosterone level bordering on overdose, I wasn’t above pursuing asian women. But it was terminal horniness, rather than racial disloyalty, that inspired that pursuit. For those who remember the 1970s can recall that the insidious hysteria known as radical feminism was just taking hold in the workplace and in academe. And there seem to be, at least in the case of caucasian women, a decline in that indefinable, but very real and desireable, trait known as femininity. Flirtatious skirts and dresses gave way to androgynous pant suits. Sweet feminine persuasion was replaced with “I am woman hear me roar.” But at my university, the one group of women not so influenced were the japanese and chinese women. My guess it is those traits of gender and personality, so attractive to so many men, are the reason many caucasian men persue asian women.

Posted by Ice Bandit at 10:58 PM on November 29


I am an American of Korean background who is against massive immigration from Third World countries. I, for, one do not support affirmative action that discriminates against the hard-working decent European Americans. They are not our enemies. In fact, the real enemies are the anti-white marxists of all races who should be treated for treasons against America.

Unfortunately, Asians residing in this great nation of ours failed to see the truth regarding massive immigration from Third World nations and how it will ultimately hurt their standard of living in the long-term

It is my hope all Americans, regardless of color, will rise up against the Far-Left agitators and make America our home again. I hope to God the cult of multiculturalism will burn in hell.

BTW, I surely hope Asians and other non-whites view White Americans as people too. They should have White history month in November. Besides, they have the right to perserve their hertiage just as anybody else.

USC Trojans Patriot

Posted by USC Trojans Patriot at 11:58 PM on November 29


I find it puzzling that Asians would vote Democratic. They’re the most affluent group and the smartest … on taxes and affirmative action, it’s the liberal policies which hurt them the most. Add to the mix their traditional culture, one would think voting Republican would be a no-brainer. You know, if McCain spent as much time engaging Asians in California as he did Hispandering, he probably would have won California and the election.

Posted by at 1:56 AM on November 30


“I find it puzzling that Asians would vote Democratic. They’re the most affluent group and the smartest … on taxes and affirmative action, it’s the liberal policies which hurt them the most. Add to the mix their traditional culture, one would think voting Republican would be a no-brainer. You know, if McCain spent as much time engaging Asians in California as he did Hispandering, he probably would have won California and the election.”

Ridiculous. Hmong, Vietnamese, Thai, Chinese, Indians and almost every other group under this umbrella are beneficiaries of AA. Many of these groups rely heavily on welfare. They also employ a great deal of illegal labor (many are relatives) in their ethnic restaurants, dry cleaners and nail salons.

Posted by at 11:45 AM on November 30


No point in white people serving in the U.S. military anymore. There’s nothing left to protect.

Posted by Tim at 12:38 PM on November 30


“Ridiculous. Hmong, Vietnamese, Thai, Chinese, Indians and almost every other group under this umbrella are beneficiaries of AA. Many of these groups rely heavily on welfare. They also employ a great deal of illegal labor (many are relatives) in their ethnic restaurants, dry cleaners and nail salons.”

Really? So why is it that at our country’s elite schools, a larger percentage of students are Asians than the percentage of Asians in the general population? At MIT, for example, they comprise about a third of the population. If MIT were to adopt a quota system which forces the proportions of students to reflect the general population, Asians would be the first to go. In California, the educational establishment looks with great alarm at the gaping disparity between Asian kids and students of other minorities (with whites stuck somewhere in the middle). The minority interest groups have their knives out for the Asians, and yet the Asians keep voting Democratic. Talk about handing the axe to the executioner. What suckers.

Posted by at 10:15 PM on November 30


Is this because Asians feel so benevolent towards other minorities, or is it that their hatred for whites is so profound as to overshadow any other consideration?

My answer: It is more like half and half. It all depends on where Asians live and varies from person-to-person. I am making an educated assumption they are focusing too much on living the ‘American Dream’ and less on complaining.

Unfortunately, there is racism towards European Americans by Asian Americans. Racism to any groups, including Europeans, is just wrong. My stance is we should be one people, one flag, one culture, and one nation. Otherwise, we will be just another South Africa.

I don’t like to brag, but if the vast majority of minorities think like me, then our borders will be shut down tomorrow and massive immigration will only be a thing of the past. However, that’s not the case.

What should we do? We should get out to vote for a candidate that will put America and Americans First. Spread the word out to your friends in Myspace, Facebook, and various other websites to get our message across on immigration, radical islam, multiculturalism and issues that pertains to our lives.

There must be a way to get our young Americans to wake up and take our country back. Otherwise, sayonara America.

USC Trojans Patriot

Posted by USC Trojans Patriot at 1:38 AM on December 1


“New America Media” is a liberal “news” organization that has been cited by AmRen in the past, specifically this story informing us that 40 to 44 percent of illegal alien students in the University of California system are Asian.

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=dadc30476b263a037ac68c65f32704c6

“New America media” also reports that there are 230,000 ILLEGAL ALIEN Koreans in the USA as of January 2007;

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=5a920a0eb9bc5730dd8cc6916f09dd40

The US Census reports 1.2 million Koreans in the USA as of 2004 – page 4, table 2;

http://www.census.gov/prod/2007pubs/acs-05.pdf

Thus, the percentage of Koreans who are illegal aliens is about 1/6 – same as Asian Indians.

Factor in the fact that the Boosh Administration has added South Korea to the list of countries that can enter the USA visa free, and it’s clear that the USA will see huge spikes in ILLEGAL ALIEN Koreans.

IMO, this is not as ominous as Asian Indians or Mexicans given that Korea has “negative population growth”;

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idb/country/ksportal.html

While India’s population is literally exploding;

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idb/country/inportal.html

As is Mexico’s;

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idb/country/mxportal.html

However, it does explain why Asians would support amnesty for ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Asians, in general, don’t get affirmative action, when applying to college because they are not an “under-represented minority”. However, since they are “under-represented” in government jobs – they do get affirmative action when applying to work for the government. This is why so many of the new workers at the post office are Asian. Jobs like police, firefighter, clerks, etc would also be required to use affirmative action hiring policies for which “underrepresented” Asians would qualify for.

This San Francisco based organization is called; Chinese for Affirmative Action

http://www.caasf.org/

About half of the so called Vietnamese in the USA are actually “ethnic Chinese”. Among the first orders of business for the victorious Vietnamese communists was the EXPULSION of ALL “ethnic Chinese” from Vietnam – even though most had lived there generations. These people usually call themselves “Vietnamese Chinese”.

Thus, there are really 2 ethnic groups among the Vietnamese in the USA – “ethnic Chinese” and ethnic Vietnamese. Due to the IQ differential between the 2, the ethnic Chinese have thrived in America while the ethnic Vietnamese remain mired in poverty, gangs, and welfare. To be sure, these are characterizations of the 2 distinct “Vietnamese” ethnic groups in the aggregate.

My 4 year long sojourn in the SF Bay Area exposed me more Asians that I would have liked.

That said;

It doesn’t matter if they are a “model minority” or not. It doesn’t matter if, on average, they have higher IQs than we do – even if we have more geniuses (and morons) because we have a more widely distributed IQ bell curve. It doesn’t matter if they are legal or illegal immigrants.

The ONLY thing that matters is that they are not white! Allowing hordes of Asians, or ANY other non white race, into OUR living space is a threat to the ONLY thing that matters; the survival of the white race!

The race that gave the world just about every single equation, formula, or theorem in a modern math text. Just about every idea in a modern physics, chemistry or medical textbook as well.

P.S. This Businessweek article is about the “Chilly Reception For Guest Workers in South Korea”

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_06/b3919082.htm

Posted by Saddle Up Texas at 3:33 AM on December 1


As for East Asians in the US, comparing Hmong/Cambodian/Laotian/Vietnamese with Japanese/Korean is more or less like comparing Egyptian/Iraqi/Ethiopian with Swedish/Norwegian. East Asians consist of very different groups.

Posted by at 5:03 AM on December 1


I have been condemned on more than one occasion for not being strongly against East Asian and white intermixture. In my lifetime, I’ve had the privilege of knowing many highly cultured and intelligent Korean and Chinese people. Some have been loyal and compassionate friends. I do support a limited number of highly educated East Asian immigrants coming into the United States every year, but I’m against huge migrations of peoples (including East Asians) to already developed countries like the United States. Rational but limited immigration during times of economic growth is within the traditions of the United States. Basically, I support the United States remaining a predominately white country because that was how the country was founded and progressed. Our history, culture, language as well as economic well being are all inter-related to the continuation of the majority white race in America.

Posted by Sardonicus at 8:33 AM on December 1


Welcome Third Worlders into a new Third World country you are creating!

Posted by factualist at 10:40 AM on December 1


One thing is predictable. That Asians just love to come here in droves, then once in America, endlessly rant and decry the perceived racism. Typified by that poster calling himself “Korean guy.”

One thing I don’t get… if America is supposed to be so full of racism and hatred of Asiatics… why do they persist in coming to a country where they’re not wanted? Come to think of it, Asiatic countries, we find, are just as racist as they accuse us Whites of being. But get any Asian to admit anything like that.

Posted by Fed Up at 12:54 PM on December 1


Chinese government, contrary to what happens in the U.S., Europe, Canada and Australia, wants a more homogenous country. They don’t want minority-majority regions. Although 90% of Chinese population is Han (an ethnic group), they have regions with high concentration of minorities like Tibet, Muslim Uyghur and Inner Mongolia. That is the reason why Chinese authorities are encouraging Han migration to those regions.

Posted by Ed at 1:24 PM on December 1


Asians are casual friends with whites but I’ve never known whites and asians as close friends. Asians put family first, other asians second and then relationships with others last. Whites are stupid. They place relationships with minorities up top, family second and other whites last.

Posted by at 3:38 PM on December 1


I’ve always been an advocate for kicking out the non-Mexican illegals first. We have legitamite ties to Mexico and must handle illegal invasions from them much differently than with east asians or East Indians, Pakistanis or other Asian people. Illegal Asians need to be kicked out of America just like illegal Africans or even illegal Europeans. If we are not a sovereign country anymore then let’s get on with the obvious next phase of post-America.

Posted by Elrey Jones at 7:08 PM on December 1


“I do support a limited number of highly educated East Asian immigrants coming into the United States every year, but I’m against huge migrations of peoples (including East Asians) to already developed countries like the United States. Rational but limited immigration during times of economic growth is within the traditions of the United States.”

The traditions of the United States up until recently allowed for immigration of Western peoples ONLY. We’re already getting a number of East Asians pouring into the country and that along with Hispanics WILL REDUCE us to a minority in 25 years. Any White who thinks that dispossession by an oriental is ok is either an oriental or is married to a rice picker. Which one are you?

Posted by Steve at 11:11 PM on December 1


Sardonicus, I’ve been in the same position on these boards many times. People accuse me of being pro-Asian, traitor etc… I prefer the US to be a mainly white country with some influx from compatible and civilized people from the far East as well as necessary immigration from Europe and other white populations. The mainland chinese are a little squirrely but I believe that they too will gradually change now that they are more concerned with their economy than the communist rhetoric. I had very favorable interactions with chinese, koreans, and japanese people and usually I am not scared of them jacking, killing, or mugging me. They are polite and hard workers in my workplace. I’ve had mostly negative experiences with middle easterners, hispanic, black, and other groups since I’ve been around various groups of people.

Posted by realist at 1:31 AM on December 2


“One thing is predictable. That Asians just love to come here in droves, then once in America, endlessly rant and decry the perceived racism. Typified by that poster calling himself “Korean guy.””

UGH, when did I ever rant and/or decry racism? I never ever did. To be honest I rarely experienced racism since I arrived in Canada. And even if I did experience racism, I sure would have found a way to work around it.

I think any non-white including East Asians screaming “racism in North America in the hands of whites” is a very pathetic excuse. If I work hard, I can do anything I want and I can have anything I want.

“We’re already getting a number of East Asians pouring into the country and that along with Hispanics WILL REDUCE us to a minority in 25 years.”

a number of East Asians along with Hispanics… how? immigration to USA is very difficult nowadays. That is one of the reasons why my family decided to move to Canada. It was too difficult, if not impossible, to receive residence permit in USA.

Posted by Korean guy at 7:54 PM on December 2


“Whites are stupid. They place relationships with minorities up top, family second and other whites last.”

You are right. I know many white Americans and Europeans who are so interested in other cultures that spend their youth traveling to Africa, Asia and Latin America as volunteers for humanitary work. They are so naive that think they can change the world. Undeveloped nations will never progress if their governments and politicians continue with their corruption and inefficacy. Their dictators, presidents and authorities use their power to get rich, they don’t care if their own people are dying with epidemics and famines.
P.S: An anecdote. Some months ago thieves stole money, digital cameras and other electronic devices from a group of volunteers working in a Latin American country. That’s what they receive for being so charitable.

Posted by at 1:41 AM on December 3


Any White who thinks that dispossession by an oriental is ok is either an oriental or is married to a rice picker. Which one are you? Steve

Sorry Steve, I’m neither of the two. I said I support “limited” immigration from East Asian, not the huge numbers we’ve been getting since 1965. By the way, it is unrealistic to think that we could ever go back to the National Origins Act of the nineteen twenties. A few thousand more East Asians in a country of three hundred million is hardly the “dispossession” the Hispanics are bringing in their untold millions.

Posted by Sardonicus at 1:48 PM on December 3


“a number of East Asians along with Hispanics… how? immigration to USA is very difficult nowadays. That is one of the reasons why my family decided to move to Canada. It was too difficult, if not impossible, to receive residence permit in USA.”

You’ve gotta be kidding. When it comes to immigration, America is a soft touch. They’ve let millions of Asians in the country just in the past decade. If they didn’t allow permanent residency it’s probably because you were at the back of the queu on their quotas for that year. All anybody has to do is fly into Los Angeles and scatter into the population. Don’t want to be on the radar? No problem. Fly into Mexico and walk across the border. Many areas have nothing more than a rusty barbed wire fence separating the US from Mexico. Permanent residency? What do you need that for? It won’t stop you from finding employment. Social Security numbers and driver’s licenses can be bought on many street corners. Not looking for work? No problem. Squirt out a baby on US soil and you automatically qualify for welfare. They’ll even pay for the hospitalization. No questions asked. I’m going to stop now because I’m starting to get angry.

Posted by at 5:08 PM on December 3


Well big guy (or ma’am) I am sorry to hear that you are angry,

But if immigration to USA is such a piece of cake as you say, then why are there illegal immigrants in USA? Why can’t they just legally immigrate to USA if it is so easy. If your words are true that immigration to USA is so easy even for the least deserving, the poorest, least educated non-white people from the third world countries around the world, then why aren’t they just legally immigrating to USA? Legally immigrating to USA and becoming a legal citizen to USA will grant tremendous rights as opposed to the “benefits” of being an illegal citizen in USA. Being a legal immigrant also removes any chance of being deported. the “benefit” that illegal immigrants do not have to pay “taxes”? haha but it is also impossible for illegal immigrants to find jobs that pay even close to what legal citizens in USA get paid.

and the fake IDs? I can tell a fake ID in ten seconds. I can tell a counterfeit currency in two seconds. Bouncers in front of clubs in Toronto can tell if an ID is fake in two to three seconds. (but some bouncers pretend as if they can’t tell if it is a fake one because the clubs have to make profit any way they can) the trick is the ID card is not the only thing the bouncers look at when they check the validity of the ID.

And the comment almost at top of this page that I did not pay much attention to,

“Asian american men truly do not like how white males “take” their women. They overwhelmingly voted for Obama and I’m not surprised they support illegal immigrants’ rights.”

I will be honest with you, maybe it is because I am seriously considering a career in IT, I did appreciate it when Obama said he will concentrate on reducing IT outsourcing to India (there are many white people who are in that industry as well, and suffering from outsourcing to India as well) but it is extremely ridiculous to say “Asian men are jealous of white men that a few Asian women are dating white men, therefore Asian men voted for Obama and Asian men support illegal immigration.”

and secondly, I fail to see any logical connection between “some Asian women are dating white men” and “Asian men support illegal immigration and illegal immigrants’ rights” That is like, saying, “White men enjoy visiting the zoo and playing baseball therefore white men went to buy some chocolate”. I fail to see any logical connection.

Why would Asian men in North America support illegal immigration and illegal immigrants’ rights? (if illegal immigrants have any rights) There is no reason for us to. Please be assured, Asian men especially East Asian men namely Japanese men and Korean men have absolutely zero reason to support illegal immigration or the illegal immigrants’ rights. It is the opposite in reality!! we all know illegal immigrants are sometimes dangerous and commit crimes, (well, one of the illegal immigrants’ ways to make living) and nobody wants to live in a dangerous society especially during times like nowadays when authorities are too busy making excuses that they cannot do anything, because they are so scared of being labeled as racists.

and I will gladly repeat it one more time, Asian men do know there are a few white men who are dating Asian women, but we Asian men are not jealous. If there is any Asian guy or white guy or black guy who says “some of our girls are dating men outside our race!!” that is nothing more than a pathetic excuse for not being able to find a date. and let me assure you, I did talk about “there are some Asian women dating outside the race” with other Asian men of different nationalities countless times, but I have never met any Asian man who moaned or complained. On top of that, interracial dating is still rare. Toronto is one of the most multi-ethnic cities in the world and more than 95% of people of all races are still dating within their respective races. If you consider “dating people with similar skin tones but different nationalities” is an interracial dating, it would be around 90%. I notice a lot of Russians date whites of British ancestries in Canada. If you can’t believe me, you are welcome to visit Toronto or just ask anyone who lives or has visited Toronto in the past. The bottom line is interracial dating is still rare everywhere in this world.

That is also the biggest reason why Asian men do not have to be jealous that some white men and Asian women date each other. It does not affect the Asian boys’ chances of getting a date. If there is anyone who says “I can’t get a date because our girls are dating outside our race” what do we call that? a lame excuse.

on another note, I just received a message from my prof that she will give me a four day extension for my final project. That is a big relief 🙂

Posted by Korean guy at 6:17 AM on December 4


Korean guy. Good for your parents paying taxes. We in California see something entirely different. First, there are the constant slave labor scandals in asian food processing, garment sweatshops and sex slave industries.

Then there is the total tax evasion practiced by asians in their crooked businesses. Even the anti white, anti american pro illegal immigrant Los Angeles Times ran a story that just the one country of Los Angeles alone was owed one billion dollars per year from ASAIN businesses that failed to pay sales taxes.

Asian convenience store owners are notorious for food stamp fraud. People constantly ask, “Why do asians set up convenience stores in such dangerous ghetto neighborhoods? The answer is food stamp fraud. The asians buy the food stamps from the blacks at 40 cents to the dollar then the federal government reimubrses the crooked asain business 100 cents on the dollar.

The food stamp fraud store owners in every state in the US are overwhelmingly asian and indian.

There is also the fact that asian employers prefer their own clansmen. An asian businessman will pay a smuggler $30,000 to bring over some 2nd cousins brother in law rather than hiring someone in the country. Of course the 2nd cousins brother in law is bound to work for the rest of his life to pay off the $30,000 plus 400 percent interest.

Sorry Korean guy, it is the truth.

The other problem is the inherent racism of American employers and our governments affirmative action policies. It is almost impossible for a white american male to get into either medical or nursing school anymore, so the percentage of white male american physicians dwindles every year. I work at a medical school and the white american male representation is only about 5 percent. The rest are white females and various asian, indian and other foreigners.

White american males are still allowed to study computers, IT and engineering, but it is impossible for them to find jobs due to the anti white racism of both employers and our government.

Posted by at 10:28 PM on December 4


I would like to know what happens to somone ..is here and, there visa has run out. Is this against the law? What if an illegal gives birth to a half white baby? can she take the baby back to Japan?
Thank you……. for your help. Nancy

Posted by Nancy at 7:22 PM on December 8


I would like to know what happens to somone ..is here and, there visa has run out. Is this against the law? What if an illegal gives birth to a half white baby? can she take the baby back to Japan?
Thank you……. for your help. Nancy

It will depend on the country. Where is “here”? Who is the illegal here? The mother or the father? The law is getting tougher and tougher for illegals.

Posted by at 12:54 AM on December 10


Uhm.. I’ve lived in California all my life (5th Generation USA citizen).. and everything you’ve said about Asians as a majority in California sounds a little undocumented.

Posted by Cali Asian at 6:36 AM on December 22

4 thoughts on “A New Look at Asian Immigrants

  1. Asian Indians hide behind the tag Asian. They know that Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese people are more accepted in Western societies, so better a tag that encompasses all of them. I have worked with many Asian Indians and Chinese. I found the Indians work shy, pen pushers and frankly without conscience when it came to living up to promises. They cant meet deadlines or budgets and have excuses if not a next job lined up for when they get caught. I stayed in a hotel in UAE, a good hotel, with a pool on the roof. I stopped using the pool when a family of a dozen or so Indians proceeded to squat beside the pool and wash their shoes. These people come from the largest corrupt, slum country in the world. They emigrate to replicate the slums and corruption but with them at the top. They are a nasty people.

  2. I’m Asian American. I’m opposed to multiculturalism and diversity, having experienced it throughout my time in the United States. All it does is cause racial strife and tension. That is why I’m heading to Asia to live over there. The Asian countries are actually pretty developed economically and still growing, unlike many countries in the West. The only thing that will save the West from destruction is by severely limiting immigration, thereby retaining the culture and heritage of western society.

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